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Monday, April 27th, 2009
While I know the title is both asking for trouble (because of the now anecdotal original article with a similar title) and flamebaity, cheap prozac, please read on - my goal is not to get some great stats but rather to know your opinion about the situation and discuss the possible solutions of the problem.
How it all started…
I would not like to re-iterate what has been said on several blogs, cheap prozac, just to summarize: Matt Aimonetti, cheap prozac, member of the Rails Activists, cheap prozac, gave a presentation at GoGaRuCo which contained sexually explicit images (according to some - I am not here to judge whether that’s true, cheap prozac, and it doesn’t matter anyway, cheap prozac, as you’ll see in the rest of the post).
I am not really discussing whether it’s appropriate to have images of nude chicks in your presentation at a Ruby conference (I think it’s not, cheap prozac, it’s unprofessional etc. Cheap prozac, - but that would be a matter of a different post Update: Someone summed this up in the article’s reddit thread nicely: If you’re a Rails programmer, cheap prozac, or a Ruby programmer, cheap prozac, and you don’t decry this sort of thing, cheap prozac, you have no business calling yourself a professional. Cheap prozac, It doesn’t matter how large your website is, cheap prozac, how easy it was to write, cheap prozac, how much better it is over PHP or ASP.NET or J2EE; by definition, cheap prozac, you do not belong to a professional community. Cheap prozac, That’s all there is to it. It’s incumbent on every Ruby programmer to either reject this sort of misogynistic sewage, cheap prozac, or accept that you’re never going to advance the promotion of Rails in the public perception because members of the community still think it’s edgy or cool to put pictures of strippers in their public presentations. And here’s a hint: if your decided reaction is to talk about how unimportant this is, cheap prozac, how much it doesn’t matter, cheap prozac, or how much it doesn’t offend you personally, cheap prozac, you probably don’t understand professionalism at all.) because sadly, cheap prozac, I think there are far bigger problems here than that - shedding light on them is the real purpose of the article, cheap prozac, not talking about pr0n at GoGaRuCo again.
Would You Walk Into a Hindu Temple with Your Shoes on?
I have been living in India for 2 months last summer, cheap prozac, working on a Rails startup. Cheap prozac, Maybe I am odd or something, cheap prozac, but I knew that I had to remove my shoes when entering a Hindu temple, cheap prozac, and no one had to convince me (what’s more, cheap prozac, I didn’t even think about it for a second) wether this is the right thing to do, cheap prozac, why is it so, cheap prozac, whether I should do otherwise etc. Cheap prozac, This is a similar situation - I just don’t do X when speaking at a conference, cheap prozac, if I suspect that X makes feel even one person in the room uncomfortable, cheap prozac, whether because of his gender, cheap prozac, race, cheap prozac, nationality, cheap prozac, Ruby/Rails skills, cheap prozac, penis size or what have you - regardless whether I think it’s fine for me, cheap prozac, my wife, cheap prozac, for other members of the community and/or the majority of the room. Cheap prozac,
The trick is, cheap prozac, how does a hindu feel when I enter a temple in footwear (even if that is perfectly acceptable in my country, cheap prozac, culture, cheap prozac, family, cheap prozac, friends) - it’s perfectly irrelevant how do I feel in the given situation. Cheap prozac, Using the previous paragraph, cheap prozac, try to apply this to a Ruby/Rails conference.
Shit happens…
Until this point in the story, cheap prozac, I see no problem at all, cheap prozac, and could even agree with the guys asking “what’s wrong with you, cheap prozac, don’t make a fuss out of nothing” - the pictures Matt used are non-problematic in my book, cheap prozac, and he had no idea they are problematic in anyone’s book - theoretically it could have worked, cheap prozac, but the point is, cheap prozac, it did not. Cheap prozac, Some members of the Ruby community got offended, cheap prozac, and here our story begins.
…and hits the fan
One of the real problems is that after this has been pointed out, cheap prozac, Matt still keeps answering “As mentioned many times earlier, cheap prozac, I don’t think my presentation is inappropriate.”. Cheap prozac, As I mentioned two paragraph above, cheap prozac, it doesn’t matter what do you think, cheap prozac, unless of course, cheap prozac, you don’t care about offending some members of the community. Cheap prozac, In that case you should not try to apologize at all. Cheap prozac, However, cheap prozac, if you are trying, cheap prozac, reciting “I don’t think my presentation is inappropriate” will not put and end to the discussion. Cheap prozac, It just doesn’t work. Cheap prozac, Why can’t you just simply apologize, cheap prozac, admitting that this was a bad move (because it offended some, cheap prozac, not because porn, cheap prozac, sexual images or whatever in presentations are bad, cheap prozac, per se) and finish the discussion?
Rails is Still a Ghetto
However, cheap prozac, in my opinion that’s still not the worst part of the story, cheap prozac, or to put it differently, cheap prozac, some members of the Rails community still found a way to make things worse, cheap prozac, by applauding to all this:
OK, cheap prozac, you say, cheap prozac, we are all used to DHH’s style, cheap prozac, this is just how the guy is. Cheap prozac, That’s (kind of) cool, cheap prozac, but I heard that most of the Rails core team (and obviously Matt himself) has the same opinion - and that’s a much more serious problem, cheap prozac, because it means that a Rails activist, cheap prozac, backed by DHH and other Rails core members finds all this OK, cheap prozac, despite of the fact that numerous people in the community voiced their opinion otherwise.
This is not about being a closed-minded prude, cheap prozac, shouting for police and suing everyone using sexually explicit images in a presentation. Cheap prozac, This is not even about women, cheap prozac, as I have seen both males and females on either side of the fence. Cheap prozac, This is about mutual respect - I don’t agree with you, cheap prozac, but respect your feelings. Cheap prozac, Or not, cheap prozac, as demonstrated in this case.
So Rails continues to be the most socially unacceptable framework - associated with arrogance, cheap prozac, elitism and whatnot in the past - now add pr0n images in presentations. Cheap prozac, Thankfully RailsConf is held in Las Vegas, cheap prozac, and that should calm down all the people who associate Rails with all this crap :-). Cheap prozac, The real problem is that people associate you with the tools you are using - think Cobol, cheap prozac, PHP, cheap prozac, Java… Cheap prozac, or Rails. Cheap prozac, By being part of the Rails community people associate me with Railsy stereotypes automatically, cheap prozac, which aren’t nice at all right now.
I hear you, cheap prozac, dear creme-de-la-creme Rails (core) member, cheap prozac, I know you don’t give a shit, cheap prozac, and you think this is all prude babbling - because your hourly rate is more than some of us earn in a day, cheap prozac, and you’ll be sought after even if Rails will have a much worse image than it has now. Cheap prozac, But 99.9% of us are not in the ‘circle of trust’ and would be happier if Rails would not be constantly associated with a ghetto.
MINASWUBN
In case you are wondering what does the acronym stand for, cheap prozac, it’s “Matz is Nice And So We Used to Be Nice”. Cheap prozac, Unfortunately, cheap prozac, the stuff I don’t like about the Rails community is sneaking into Ruby too, cheap prozac, it seems, cheap prozac, as the above case demonstrates. Cheap prozac, Besides this, cheap prozac, the count of aggressive comments and reactions on various blog posts is really disturbing to me. Cheap prozac, Please (at least Rubyists) try to avoid being contaminated by all this shit and stop thinking you are cool because you can swear on a forum (always in anonymity). Cheap prozac, You don’t have to be a douchebag just because you are a Rubyist / Rails coder, cheap prozac, as surprising as this might sound to some.
Conclusion
I think “incidents” like this and getting more and more antisocial members are inevitable by-products of growth in a community. Cheap prozac, The questions is, cheap prozac, whether, cheap prozac, and if, cheap prozac, how, cheap prozac, do we stop them. Cheap prozac, The problem is that it seems to me the Rails “top management” doesn’t want to stop them (what’s more, cheap prozac, even encourages them) in the first place (please prove me otherwise - maybe I don’t see the full story - I’ll be the happiest to admit that I am talking bullshit).
I have to admit I have no clue what would be the right move - burying our heads in the sand and pretending everything is fine is not. Cheap prozac, Please leave a comment if you have an idea or anything to add.
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