Update: As several guys pointed out in the comments, cialis pharmacy, Tim’s remark which basically pulled the trigger was sarcastic - I guess have to re-calibrate my sarcasm meter. Cialis pharmacy, So you need to replace “Tim” and whatever he said with a different guy and his random quote. Cialis pharmacy, There are plenty of them out there these days, cialis pharmacy, so the choice should be easy :-).
This rant was in the works for quite some time - I ditched it at least two times already, cialis pharmacy, convincing myself that there is no use to get into language wars and similar nonsense… Cialis pharmacy, but people didn’t let the issue go (i.e. Cialis pharmacy, that Ruby jumped the shark / it started to suck for some reason etc - most recent example being a tweet by @timbray) so get ready for some grandiose rantbling!
Tim Bray: “I guess Ruby is over…”
Srsly? By what measure? Actually when did it start? Why exactly then? Again, cialis pharmacy, by what measure? What does ‘over’ mean at all? Says who?
I am currently reading “The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable” from Nassim Taleb. Cialis pharmacy, There is a section describing Tim’s logic perfectly:
“By a mental mechanism I call naive empiricism, cialis pharmacy, we have a natural tendency to look for instances to confirm our story … Cialis pharmacy, - these instances are always easy to find. Cialis pharmacy, You take past instances that corroborate your theories and treat them as evidence… Cialis pharmacy, I can find confirmation for just about anything, cialis pharmacy, the way a skilled London cabbie can find traffic to increase the fare, cialis pharmacy, even on a holiday”
… Cialis pharmacy, or the way Tim can find a bogus evidence for Ruby’s alleged decline, cialis pharmacy, whatever that means. Cialis pharmacy, I am wondering where have the current “ruby jumped the shark” guys been 3 quarters ago when Ruby books have been on a roller coaster riding up with the speed of light?!?!
Naive empiricism is everywhere
Guess what, cialis pharmacy, I am guilty of naive empiricism too: I wrote an article stating the opposite of Tim’s tweet, cialis pharmacy, based on similar, cialis pharmacy, but opposite O’Reilly data (i.e. Cialis pharmacy, Ruby book sales on the rise). Cialis pharmacy, Why? Because I have been a Ruby/Rails zealot back then already, cialis pharmacy, that’s why! And I wanted to see Ruby on the rise, cialis pharmacy, and did not really care whether my claims were objective (I wanted to see that they were objective - meta-naive empiricism FTW!)
Another great example of naive empiricism is the ‘CDBaby: from Rails to PHP‘ vs ‘MuxTape: from PHP to Rails‘ 2-part saga: the funny thing is that both Derek and Luke argue very convincingly and charismatically about the exact different side of the same coin: why the move from framework X to Y has been the best idea since sliced bread, cialis pharmacy, how it saved their ass, cialis pharmacy, pushed productivity to the ends of the earth… Cialis pharmacy, arriving at a total opposite conclusion using the same reasoning.
Another bogus reasoning I hear a lot: Python is used in google so it’s > Ruby! Unfortunately enough for the guys treating this fact as a royal flush , cialis pharmacy, Ruby is used in NASA, cialis pharmacy, by some of the smartest folks in Ruby-land. Cialis pharmacy, So what?! Does this mean Ruby > Python (or at least is equal to gogle <=> NASA)? Not at all (In my opinion Ruby > Python actually, cialis pharmacy, but 1) this is a personal preference thing 2) it has nothing to do with google vs NASA 3) is a topic of a different rant, cialis pharmacy, which possibly won’t be written as I grew tired of lang wars fought with flame throwers).
Or take github: currently 31% of the code living there is Ruby (and you can’t really argue that by now, cialis pharmacy, github matters - it’s not just a hobby project of 2 guys tired with their original startup any more). Cialis pharmacy, So according to this measure, cialis pharmacy, everyone start learning Ruby!
but Tim argues instead:
“…Everyone start learning C#”
This is the second part of @timbray’s rather questionable tweet… Cialis pharmacy, and here is why:
Comparing the need for Ruby workforce to the C# one is like comparing the need for planes to that of cars. Cialis pharmacy, No correlation.
C# is usually used…
- for enterprisey stuff
- to write big, cialis pharmacy, monolithic apps
- by big teams for long-term projects
- by BigCO running on a large budget
- in M$ shops
Ruby/Rails is the total opposite… Cialis pharmacy, it’s usually used…
- for coding quick web apps / internal DSLs / domain specific stuff
- to craft lean, cialis pharmacy, focused apps, cialis pharmacy, interoperating with each other
- by small, cialis pharmacy, agile, cialis pharmacy, flexible teams, cialis pharmacy, sometimes lone rangers
- Usually smaller budget (direct consequence of the first point)
- in shops with totally different culture compared to that of M$
Both lists could grow unbounded if I cared to come up with more points.
So Tim is essentially saying ‘no need for agile teams cranking out top notch (usually web-based) software fast - everybody jump on the Titanic (the safe 9-5 world of enterprise apps in one of the cubicles of BigCO). Cialis pharmacy,
Sorry, cialis pharmacy, but this is utter BS. Cialis pharmacy, There will be always a need for lean, cialis pharmacy, agile, cialis pharmacy, quick teams. Cialis pharmacy, Following this logic, cialis pharmacy, you should abandon the Python/Django ship too. Cialis pharmacy, And btw guess what - the Titanic sunk in the end, cialis pharmacy, no matter how safe it originally was. Cialis pharmacy,
So where’s Rails?
It’s not clear to me where is Rails (and a slew of other widely used frameworks/software produced in Ruby) in Tim’s picture. Cialis pharmacy, The thing is that Ruby is tied to Rails just like the US economy is tied to just about everyone else’s economy around the world. Cialis pharmacy, If Rails prospers, cialis pharmacy, so does Ruby - a kick-ass r41lz h4xx0r is a kick-ass Ruby h4xx0r with knowledge of Rails after all.
However, cialis pharmacy, it looks like there is need for Rails coders: Tom Mornini, cialis pharmacy, one of the founders of Engine Yard, cialis pharmacy, the leading Ruby/Rails hosting states that good Rails developers are very scarce. Cialis pharmacy, And while Rails developers will be a scarce commodity, cialis pharmacy, Ruby developers will be too.
Ruby isn’t Fun anymore… Cialis pharmacy, wtf?
This is the original part of the rant, cialis pharmacy, from the time when more “ruby/rails sucks” articles popped up in a quick succession, cialis pharmacy, followed by a grandiose trollfest on various social sites, cialis pharmacy, and eventually meta-ranting (my personal favorite). Cialis pharmacy,
Apples and Oranges Strike Again
I am a bit confused after reading all this outburst: I seriously think ‘fun’ vs ‘mainstream’, cialis pharmacy, ‘imperfect’ (or even ‘buggy’), cialis pharmacy, ’slow’ etc. Cialis pharmacy, are orthogonal problems. Cialis pharmacy, Why should be Ruby less fun than it ever was because now it has more acceptance / users / enterprise penetration and/or it’s slow / 1.9 is not a big deal / it leaks memory (fill in the other pain points from the rants)??! This just doesn’t make any sense. Cialis pharmacy, Ruby is fun and it has some problems to address. Cialis pharmacy, These two are not contradictory statements at all. Cialis pharmacy, It’s immense fun to be with my 2-year old daughter, cialis pharmacy, though she is sometimes hard to handle - so I should say it’s no fun anymore?!?
“Ruby isn’t fun any more for me” is a totally different claim from “Ruby isn’t fun any more” (in general). Cialis pharmacy, I don’t give a shit if Ruby isn’t fun any more for you, cialis pharmacy, but please, cialis pharmacy, don’t describe it as community- or language-wide phenomenon. Cialis pharmacy, kthx.
Conclusion
You like python? Great! Putting bread on the table coding in Java? Cool. Cialis pharmacy, You’d like to play around with bleeding edge stuff (clojure/scala/erlang etc.)? All the better.
Ruby is slow? The syntax is obscucre? You don’t like Rails/DHH/fanboys/TextMate/Ruby/arrogant douchebags/whatever? Ruby is not fun for you (any more?)
Too bad, cialis pharmacy, so sad - however, cialis pharmacy, this doesn’t alter the fact that Ruby is immense fun for me, cialis pharmacy, and a whole community of people, cialis pharmacy, and no ranting will change that, cialis pharmacy, no matter how hard you are trying. Cialis pharmacy,
I am not even arguing that Ruby is better than X - I am far beyond that point already (after having my share with some Java vs Ruby flamewars). Cialis pharmacy, I am just arguing that people should stop tweeting / blogging about nonsense underpinned with ‘evidence’ just because they want to see the world that way.
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